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orthodoxbuddha

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:47 am
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Any Allen Ginsberg fans in here? This is the poem that was in my junior
college literature book. I love Allen Ginsberg and would love to hear
your favorite Allen Ginsberg poems.
A Supermarket in California
Allen Ginsberg

What thoughts I have of you tonight, Walt Whitman, for
I walked down the sidestreets under the trees with a headache
self-conscious looking at the full moon.
In my hungry fatigue, and shopping for images, I went
into the neon fruit supermarket, dreaming of your enumerations!
What peaches and what penumbras! Whole families
shopping at night! Aisles full of husbands! Wives in the
avocados, babies in the tomatoes!--and you, Garcia Lorca, what
were you doing down by the watermelons?

I saw you, Walt Whitman, childless, lonely old grubber,
poking among the meats in the refrigerator and eyeing the grocery
boys.
I heard you asking questions of each: Who killed the
pork chops? What price bananas? Are you my Angel?
I wandered in and out of the brilliant stacks of cans
following you, and followed in my imagination by the store
detective.
We strode down the open corridors together in our
solitary fancy tasting artichokes, possessing every frozen
delicacy, and never passing the cashier.

Where are we going, Walt Whitman? The doors close in
an hour. Which way does your beard point tonight?
(I touch your book and dream of our odyssey in the
supermarket and feel absurd.)
Will we walk all night through solitary streets? The
trees add shade to shade, lights out in the houses, we'll both be
lonely.

Will we stroll dreaming of the lost America of love
past blue automobiles in driveways, home to our silent cottage?
Ah, dear father, graybeard, lonely old courage-teacher,
what America did you have when Charon quit poling his ferry and
you got out on a smoking bank and stood watching the boat
disappear on the black waters of Lethe?

Berkeley, 1955

orthodox buddha

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:45 pm
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Will Dockery wrote:
> On Jun 3, 2:47 am, orthodoxbuddha wrote:
>> Any Allen Ginsberg fans in here? This is the poem that was in my junior
>> college literature book. I love Allen Ginsberg and would love to hear
>> your favorite Allen Ginsberg poems.
>
> Hello, Olympiada, you're a friend of David's (who I know from the
> poetry groups), right?
>
> Here's one of my favorite Ginsberg poems, or an excerpt, anyhow:
>
Thank you Will. Yes, I am a friend of David's. Do you discuss Allen
Ginsberg in any of your poetry groups? Or Gary Synder, he is my other
favorite poet. I want a book of Allen Ginsberg's poetry so I can read it
out loud to my heart's content.
Olympiada

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:37 am
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On Jun 4, 7:45 pm, orthodoxbuddha wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Jun 3, 2:47 pm, orthodoxbuddha wrote:
>
> >> Any Allen Ginsberg fans in here? This is the poem that was in my junior
> >> college literature book. I love Allen Ginsberg and would love to hear
> >> your favorite Allen Ginsberg poems.
>
> > Hello, Olympiada, you're a friend of David's (who I know from the
> > poetry groups), right?
>
> > Here's one of my favorite Ginsberg poems, or an excerpt, anyhow:
>
> Thank you Will. Yes, I am a friend of David's. Do you discuss Allen
> Ginsberg in any of your poetry groups?

Heh... yeah, I just answered that question in advance over in the
other group's "Allen Ginsberg" thread, currently there are several
good discussions of Ginsberg and the origins of the beats there:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.poems/topics

and

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/topics?lnk=rgh

> Or Gary Synder, he is my other favorite poet.

Snyder is being discussed as an originator of "American Haiku" in the
poetry groups right now, also! Hope you'll find time to join in:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.poems/msg/758016b31e64027d

> I want a book of Allen Ginsberg's poetry so I can read it
> out loud to my heart's content.

Some good Beat links someone posted recently:

Still "Howl-ing"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wXswwStIQEI

http://www.rooknet.com/beatpage/writers/ginsberg.html

http://www.kerouac.com/

http://www.connectotel.com/beat/index.html

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NgGFYBOiR9A

http://youtube.com/watch?v=T6LZLZ4Rryw

> Olympiada

--
"Mirror Twins" by W. Dockery-B. Fowler:
http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars

"Hasty Pudding" by W. Dockery-H. Conley:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
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